College students making blasphemous remarks about having to obtain legal documents, a government-issued photo identification to vote, should learn quickly that certain rules are necessary to ensure your God-given right to safety and freedom. Now that it’s on the table that voter fraud has been acknowledged as true, then why wouldn’t we work to protect a voter’s identity?
“Admitting that voter fraud exists, Rep. Larry Hall, D-Durham, said the occurrences were miniscule,” according to WRAL.com.
How does he know? And why wouldn’t we want to take the proper steps to promote a democracy where people respect their rights and not outwardly abuse them? Currently there’s no proof in terms of how much and how often voter fraud occurs. Here’s a lesson, if everything in life has been handed to you, good luck. Hurdles are part of everyday life. And, it’s your choice to be apathetic, as well as to not follow laws, but that doesn’t mean there won’t be consequences.
“Courtney Scott, a student at Shaw University and a resident of Georgia, said the law could lead to apathy among out-of-state students who have to go through hurdles to prove their identity to get a state-issued photo ID,” WRAL.com reports.
Where do we draw the line on liberty and intrusion, or should we throw caution to the wind and let go of what has made this country what it is? If your greatest concern is the 2012 election, it’s good to know that some of our leaders only care about holding onto power and not protecting the rights of the constituents who they represent.
States know who the eligible voters are in their states because they keep voter rolls. Civitas seems to avoid stating that voter rolls exist.
Instances of voter fraud could be identified by those who show up to the polls to find that their vote has already been cast. I haven’t seen anything about this on the news EVER in North Carolina.
This is meant to make it more difficult for people to vote, plain and simple.
At any given time there are thousands of duplicate voter registrations and countless deceased voters on the official voter registration list along with more than 450,000 inactive voters (people who are registered to vote but have either moved or died). With the growing number of organizations that target weaknesses in election laws and processes, all of these ineligible voter registrations could be used to commit voter fraud. The combination of bad data and flawed processes lead to doubtful election outcomes. Voter Photo ID is a common sense measure that will help secure North Carolina’s elections.
Great; sounds like there should be better data collection. But that’s not what you’re pushing for.
I still don’t see Civitas pointing to any demonstrable effort to defraud voters–and definitely not to a number that wouldn’t be dwarfed by the number of people who ended up not voting because of Voter ID.
The only “fraud” in voting is the idea that making someone show an ID somehow makes our voting more secure.
The data doesn’t support that voters will be disenfranchised. Research shows voter turnout not diminshed by a photo-voter ID law. Both Georgia and Indiana, two states with the most strict photo-voter ID laws, broke records in voter turnout in the 2008 Presidential Election. And in the Indiana U.S. Supreme Court decision, Justice Stevens noted that requiring voters to obtain voter photo ID “does not qualify as a substantial burden on the right to vote or even represent a signfiicant increase over the usual burdens of voting.
Just seems like another bureaucratic check box that does little to make voting more secure. They need to do more to clean-up the voter rolls. Also, it has been a long time since I registered but I don’t recll showing ANY ID to register to vote.
David, I think you just proved the point. You are right and that is why it needs to be fixed. There are no safeguards at any step in the system. That is unless you consider a safeguard showing a piece of paper that I can print off of any computer printer a safeguard.
I am not convinced that I need to be afraid of roving bands of vote thieves. The problems you cite can be handled just as well by asking the folks in Raleigh to do their job and clean up the voter rolls.